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		<title>By: Paula</title>
		<link>http://www.dianapeterfreund.com/pants-on-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-5533</link>
		<dc:creator>Paula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 04:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the Sesame Street reference...or wait, is it from The Electric Company?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Okay, whatever, it was funny as hell.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;How come I&#039;m only able to see the brillance of the Ed Letter once the edits are implemented, completely finished and I&#039;ve bitched and moaned with each change?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Wait, don&#039;t answer that.  It may not reflect well on me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the Sesame Street reference&#8230;or wait, is it from The Electric Company?</p>
<p>Okay, whatever, it was funny as hell.</p>
<p>How come I&#8217;m only able to see the brillance of the Ed Letter once the edits are implemented, completely finished and I&#8217;ve bitched and moaned with each change?</p>
<p>Wait, don&#8217;t answer that.  It may not reflect well on me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jami Alden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jami Alden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 22:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My vote is for the combusting pants. I think you said something about that before, Diana, that when you don&#039;t know how to end a chapter, you blow something up. At least I think it was you...  Wow, tipping the reader off to the lie without tipping Amy off.  That&#039;s a toughie. Although one thing I heard is that liars don&#039;t always avoid eye contact, they actually make more eye contact in order to better convey the &quot;truth&quot; of their lie.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Ahh, sesame street.  I need to start Tivoing that for my little weenie.  But I&#039;m kind of bummed that Cookie Monster doesn&#039;t eat cookies anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My vote is for the combusting pants. I think you said something about that before, Diana, that when you don&#8217;t know how to end a chapter, you blow something up. At least I think it was you&#8230;  Wow, tipping the reader off to the lie without tipping Amy off.  That&#8217;s a toughie. Although one thing I heard is that liars don&#8217;t always avoid eye contact, they actually make more eye contact in order to better convey the &#8220;truth&#8221; of their lie.  </p>
<p>Ahh, sesame street.  I need to start Tivoing that for my little weenie.  But I&#8217;m kind of bummed that Cookie Monster doesn&#8217;t eat cookies anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Brenda Oig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brenda Oig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 22:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very funny post, Diana!  lol  Should have covered my keyboard before I started reading.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;ve never had to deal with giving a hint that a character is lying, but I can see how difficult that would be.  That&#039;s something to think about.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Good luck with your edits!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very funny post, Diana!  lol  Should have covered my keyboard before I started reading.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never had to deal with giving a hint that a character is lying, but I can see how difficult that would be.  That&#8217;s something to think about.</p>
<p>Good luck with your edits!</p>
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		<title>By: Trish Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trish Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 20:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re taking the opposite approach to the &quot;EAT THAT FROG&quot; book, which advises that if you have to eat a bunch of gross frogs, you might as well start in on the biggest one first.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But there&#039;s something to be said to cleaning up all those little frogs and working your way up to the big one...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Okay, to gross even for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re taking the opposite approach to the &#8220;EAT THAT FROG&#8221; book, which advises that if you have to eat a bunch of gross frogs, you might as well start in on the biggest one first.</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s something to be said to cleaning up all those little frogs and working your way up to the big one&#8230;</p>
<p>Okay, to gross even for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather Harper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather Harper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 16:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehehe.  You Seseme Street nut. ;)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;doing all the easy stuff first makes you think you&#039;ve made real progress, and if there&#039;s hard stuff coming, at least it&#039;s reduced to a page or two of hard stuff, rather than 10 pages of all kinds of stuff.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This is also how I approach house-cleaning.  Now I have a way to explain this to the hubs.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehehe.  You Seseme Street nut. <img src='http://www.dianapeterfreund.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8220;doing all the easy stuff first makes you think you&#8217;ve made real progress, and if there&#8217;s hard stuff coming, at least it&#8217;s reduced to a page or two of hard stuff, rather than 10 pages of all kinds of stuff.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is also how I approach house-cleaning.  Now I have a way to explain this to the hubs.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Diana Peterfreund</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diana Peterfreund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, Sir John. I&#039;m a big fan of that kind of dialogue twist. One of my favorite examples is when Caroline Bingley tells Elizabeth Bennet to watch out for that Wickham character in &lt;i&gt;Pride and Prejudice&lt;/i&gt;. Obviously, since Caroline is a snobby shrew and Elizabeth likes Wickham, she is inclined to disbelieve her. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I also like characters speaking the truth, in general, and definitely speaking *up* whenever possible, as advocated by &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://emmagads.com/blog/2006/09/19/talking-heads/&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Emma Gads&lt;/a&gt; in a recent blog post. Usually, unless thre&#039;s a very good reason for the character to remain silent, they&#039;ll blurt out what they are thinking. Amy, in particular, does this a lot. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And yet, some characters must lie.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Ah, Roger Ackroyd. A classic, Gina! I&#039;ve done the unreliable narrator bit (for a novella I wrote for a class in college) and it&#039;s DAMN hard. harder even, I think, than doing the &quot;sympathy for the devil&quot; first POV route (cf. Lolita or Darkly Dreaming Dexter), which is no picnic, either. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Amy is a very reliable narrator. She may not always see things PERFECTLY clearly (what 21 year old does?), but she&#039;s very honest with you about what she sees, and even, occasionally, about the fact that she knows someone else may see it differently. I think because of the intimacy of the style of the SSG stories ( She tells you all about her sex life, etc. straight off the bat) you are inclined even more than usual to seew hat she sees. If someone is lying to her, they are lying to you, too.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Or maybe I&#039;m just being all rose-colored about it. But this is what I think about during revisions. FYI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Sir John. I&#8217;m a big fan of that kind of dialogue twist. One of my favorite examples is when Caroline Bingley tells Elizabeth Bennet to watch out for that Wickham character in <i>Pride and Prejudice</i>. Obviously, since Caroline is a snobby shrew and Elizabeth likes Wickham, she is inclined to disbelieve her. </p>
<p>I also like characters speaking the truth, in general, and definitely speaking *up* whenever possible, as advocated by <a HREF="http://emmagads.com/blog/2006/09/19/talking-heads/" REL="nofollow">Emma Gads</a> in a recent blog post. Usually, unless thre&#8217;s a very good reason for the character to remain silent, they&#8217;ll blurt out what they are thinking. Amy, in particular, does this a lot. </p>
<p>And yet, some characters must lie.</p>
<p>Ah, Roger Ackroyd. A classic, Gina! I&#8217;ve done the unreliable narrator bit (for a novella I wrote for a class in college) and it&#8217;s DAMN hard. harder even, I think, than doing the &#8220;sympathy for the devil&#8221; first POV route (cf. Lolita or Darkly Dreaming Dexter), which is no picnic, either. </p>
<p>Amy is a very reliable narrator. She may not always see things PERFECTLY clearly (what 21 year old does?), but she&#8217;s very honest with you about what she sees, and even, occasionally, about the fact that she knows someone else may see it differently. I think because of the intimacy of the style of the SSG stories ( She tells you all about her sex life, etc. straight off the bat) you are inclined even more than usual to seew hat she sees. If someone is lying to her, they are lying to you, too.</p>
<p>Or maybe I&#8217;m just being all rose-colored about it. But this is what I think about during revisions. FYI.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Brande</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin Brande</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marry and kill my copy edits, that is.  Not the actual editors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marry and kill my copy edits, that is.  Not the actual editors.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Brande</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin Brande</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diana, I can totally identify with your love of your editor and of your editorial letter.  I also confess that when I got my copy edits (different from the editorial letter, for those who are wondering--it&#039;s the red marks on your manuscript saying &quot;take out this comma&quot; and &quot;does it really rain in the desert in July?&quot;) that I wanted to both marry and kill them.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So yes, maybe this is craziness, but it&#039;s good to be crazy with others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diana, I can totally identify with your love of your editor and of your editorial letter.  I also confess that when I got my copy edits (different from the editorial letter, for those who are wondering&#8211;it&#8217;s the red marks on your manuscript saying &#8220;take out this comma&#8221; and &#8220;does it really rain in the desert in July?&#8221;) that I wanted to both marry and kill them.</p>
<p>So yes, maybe this is craziness, but it&#8217;s good to be crazy with others.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina Black</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&gt;&gt;I think 1st person POV creates a layer of trust in the reader that may not be there in third person. &lt;&lt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Read &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Murder_of_Roger_Ackroyd&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Murder of Roger Ackroyd&lt;/a&gt; by Agatha Christie for more on the case of the &lt;i&gt;unreliable (first person) narrator&lt;/i&gt;... &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;(warning: link contains spoilers)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>>>I think 1st person POV creates a layer of trust in the reader that may not be there in third person. < <</i></p>
<p>Read <a HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Murder_of_Roger_Ackroyd" REL="nofollow">The Murder of Roger Ackroyd</a> by Agatha Christie for more on the case of the </i><i>unreliable (first person) narrator</i>&#8230; </p>
<p>(warning: link contains spoilers)</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Leto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie Leto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely a coffee-spewing moment.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Diana, I highlight editorial letters, too.  I also do the easy stuff first, then move into the harder, hardest, stet.  Then again, I also do color-coded plot boards...and I&#039;m the most disorganized woman on the planet.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Back in the day when I was teaching high school lit, I always taught my students to be increasingly suspicious of the first person narrator, because they lie, to the reader and to themselves.  I think that may be why I had so much trouble getting into first-person narration in genre lit--I didn&#039;t want to worry about whether that person was lying to me.  But I got over it. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely a coffee-spewing moment.</p>
<p>Diana, I highlight editorial letters, too.  I also do the easy stuff first, then move into the harder, hardest, stet.  Then again, I also do color-coded plot boards&#8230;and I&#8217;m the most disorganized woman on the planet.</p>
<p>Back in the day when I was teaching high school lit, I always taught my students to be increasingly suspicious of the first person narrator, because they lie, to the reader and to themselves.  I think that may be why I had so much trouble getting into first-person narration in genre lit&#8211;I didn&#8217;t want to worry about whether that person was lying to me.  But I got over it. <img src='http://www.dianapeterfreund.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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