Over on the Bookends blog, Jessica Faust is discussing the topic of Resubmissions. This is not revising and resubmitting the same work, but being rejected by an agent or editor, writing a new book, and trying again with that same agent or editor. Jessica says:

a number of my clients were previously rejected, and because of that I know firsthand that a rejection means nothing. Unless I tell you that what you’re writing does not fit the type of books BookEnds represents, then there’s no reason you shouldn’t keep trying, just like there’s no reason I won’t keep trying to sell the work of my clients.

Nothing new to me here. As I have said before on this blog, I was rejected by my now-agent with another book.

What does surprise me, however, is the number of comments on the post suggesting that writers do not realize this is the case. Of the 16 comments not made by Jessica herself on the post, eight of them were from writers who didn’t realize that they could submit again. One writer even went so far as to say:

I am one of those who sees little point in submitting to an agent who has already rejected my work. To me, a rejection means my style is not compatible with what the agency represents.

Actually, it just means that the agent doesn’t think she can sell the book you sent her. I was really surprised to see this opinion coming from this particular writer, who I’ve seen around the blogosphere and who is a fellow columnist at Romancing the Blog. She usually seems so savvy. She went on to say that if the agent ever did hope to see another submission from the rejected writer, she should make sure to write a note about how much she liked the writer’s voice and is looking forward to seeing the next work.

Interesting. What happens if the agent doesn’t like the writer’s voice in that piece? What if it isn’t well-developed, or isn’t well-suited to the material at hand? What if the agent thinks it’s total crap, but the writer then gets it together, has a massive leap forward in craft, and writes something that knocks the agent’s socks off next time? If you go into a clothing store, but don’t see anything that you want to buy during that particular trip, do you avoid that clothing store for all eternity? Or are you back in a few weeks when their spring line comes in? Or do you make a point of going up to the clerk and saying that though you didn’t see anything you wanted to buy this time, you would be happy to come back at a later date because you see a lot of promise in that clothing store.

Come now.

It isn’t an agent’s job to encourage people who aren’t their clients. It isn’t an agent’s job to do anything on a rejection except say “no thanks.” Full disclosure: my rejection from my now-agent did in fact encourage me to send her something else I’d written, but if it hadn’t, I doubt I would have been deterred.

I never thought that a rejection was about me. How could it be? The people involved didn’t even know me. And it was unlikely they’d remember me or the book they rejected when I sent them my next book. Yes, if I sent them a dozen manuscripts and none even inspired cursory interest, I’d think that we probably weren’t a good fit. Or if their rejection letter detailed exactly why we’d never see eye-to-eye about the needs of story, I’d probably cross them off my list. But a “no thanks?” That’s them saying they don’t like that book/don’t think it will sell/don’t think they can sell it/etc. So what do you do? You write the next book.

I wonder if some of this reluctance to retry agents who rejected you is a wounded pride thing. They’ll never ask THAT girl to the prom again. But if I really want a job someplace, I’m going to apply every time a spot comes open.

I wonder if it’s a matter of not wanting to let go of a particular work. That if they eventually sign with an agent for work C, they’ll never be able to sell works A or B. When I signed with my agent, she told me that we could revisit one of my earlier books that she’d considered. It was me that said, “Nah, let’s move forward, not backward.” There are a lot of books that don’t make good first books, but can later be revisited and “fixed.” I have several multi-published friends who are currently writing or have rewritten unpublished novels from early in their career. And there are lots of writers like me, who with 20/20 hindsight, can look back on their earlier books and see why they are better left in the recesses of their hard drives.

But I know that this is basically a useless statement. Agent Kristin Nelson made a comment to this effect several weeks ago and the commenters on her blog said, basically, that if their X number book, on average, was the one that had selling potential, should they just rush through writing all the X-1 books so that they can get to the “selling” one? Ah, wouldn’t that be nice, huh?

When you are writing these books, you have to believe that this massive undertaking has a purpose. No one writes a book thinking “this is my practice book.” Each of the four books I wrote before SSG were books I thought would sell. I finished them, polished them, queried them, sent them out when they were requested, sniffled (and occasionally cried) over the rejections and then, after they’d had a good period of time to sink or swim, I chalked them up as a learning experience and moved on to the next book.

Another commenter on the Bookends blog wrote:

I just had that same experience with a publisher. They didn’t accept my revise and resubmit, but they invited me to send future work. I like them and I will…but is it too much to submit the rejected work somewhere else in the hope it’ll sell? Or just focus on my current WIP?

Well, personally, I wouldn’t give up after just one publisher. (Neither would I be submitting to publishers without an agent, but that’s a whole other issue.) And yet, the agent makes a very good point when she responds with: “if you feel your WIP is much, much stronger and when looking back on the first book truly believe you aren’t going to find someone for it, that it’s not as strong as it needs to be than feel free to put it aside.”

I know that feeling. I wasn’t very far into my second manuscript when I realized that the first one had some fatal flaws. I remember getting the rejection on the partial. I barely even shrugged. I was already onto book three.

Sometimes I hear writers say they know that X book is “The One.” I never had that feeling, or rather, I always had it. Every book was “The One.” I’m not the kind of girl who can devote a year of my life to something that I already know will be a waste of time. And in the end of course, it’s not a waste of time; I got better with every book I wrote.

And yet sometimes, this very thought process paralyzes writers. Writers who never finish or even start a book, determined to have that “perfect” sellable concept before they put in the time of coughing up 400 pages. Writers who query projects that don’t exist so that the subsequent requests will spur them on to write. All well and good if they actually do write the books. But what if they don’t?

This is the kind of behavior that gives rise to that wise old axiom: Writers write. Writers are the ones with manuscripts under their bed or on their hard drive, not the ones with ideas in their heads and query letters in their pockets. Writers write. They don’t necessarily sell.

Stephen King said in his fabulous book On Writing that you should write the rough draft of your book with the door closed. That means you don’t think about your audience, you don’t think about your market, you don’t think about how your mom is going to blush when she reads the scene on page 78 — you think about the story. What the story needs. And then, after it’s written, you revise it with the door open. You think about where the reader will get bored, where you get bored, what the market is going to freak out about, what the audience will expect. But the book has to exist, first.

Writing a book is hard. The first time I went from “Chapter 1″ to “The End” was one of the hardest things I’d ever done, and that was after I took a ridiculous amount of credits and wrote two theses my last semester at college. And now I’ve done it six times, and still every time I start, I wonder if this will be the time that breaks me. So it’s good to believe that it is all worth something. It’s important to believe that.

And it’s also important to understand that, no matter how much we believe that ourselves, no matter how important the book is to us, it’s just a story to someone else. It’s a story for an agent to reject with a form letter, or for a reader to bang against the wall.

When I get a rejection, I am spurred on to do better. Send them my next book with, “oh yeah? Reject this.” And maybe they won’t be able to.

18 Responses to “Perseverance”
  1. Kristin B says:

    I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately, because I’m well into #3 and preparing to start querying on #2.

    Here’s what boggles my mind about the writers who think they can’t submit to the same agent with a different work–won’t they eventually run out of (legit) agents to submit to in that genre before they snag one? I mean, say you shelve your 4th MS after 30 rejects, and let’s be conservative and say you put away the first three after 20 rejects. I’m thinking it would be a big challenge to find another 20-30 to query for your 5th.

    Then again, I guess I’m of the mind that I’m going to keep writing books until one gets published….not until I run out of agents. =)

    (word ver: zbboatg–that sound you make when you find another rejection in the mailbox.)

  2. Heather Harper says:

    “I never thought that a rejection was about me. How could it be?”

    Exactly! I think I would be more reasonable to grieve if a respected friend “rejected” my work than an anonymous agent.

  3. Kristin says:

    Brava, Diana! This is exactly how I feel about my writing. If an agent rejects book number one, then on to book number 2, and then I will query those same agents again. I especially am encouraged when an agent asks for a partial or full and then rejects it, because I KNOW that I can write an interesting plot, or my query never would have grabbed their attention…it is the execution I need to work on. And that can be done with practice, practice, practice.

    Usually, as you go through the querying process, you learn more about the agents–who’s hot at the moment. You learn about the new agents who are hungry for clients. And all of this info brings you closer to an agent, closer to publication…and none of it is wasted effort.

    I positively adored King’s book “On Writing.” So much in there to encourage and help you along the way. I loved getting inside his head to see that a super-successful blockbuster author had the same fears, the same thought processes, as I do.

  4. Sara Howe says:

    Thank you for this post. I needed it.

  5. phyllis towzey says:

    Diana said: No one writes a book thinking “this is my practice book.”

    Actually, I did. I started a book and entered it in a contest when it was only a chapter long, and it won, so I hurried up and wrote a partial because the editor requested it. The partial wasn’t nearly as good as the first chapter, tho, and the book was rejected. By then I was starting to feel that its genre wasn’t what I wanted to write in, but I went ahead and finished the book — for the practice. Because I know there’s so much to be learned from just finishing a book. ;-)

    Don’t get me wrong, I love that book. Maybe I will do something with it some day. But other than that one request from a contest, I’ve never tried to sell it and for now don’t plan to — I’m focussing on Book #2 which I’m revising now, and books # 3 and 4 which are WIP, all of which I do plan to shop around.

  6. The Buried Editor says:

    And the same is true for editors. Most of my authors that I have accepted for publication sent me something else before they sent me the manuscript I bought. I always reccommend sending your best stuff first, but the author’s idea and my idea of what is best doesn’t always agree.

    Also, since the publisher I work for has very strict rules about what we’re allowed to publish I have to reject many excellent midgrade manuscripts simply because they are to controversial. (Of course, I have been known to then pick these books up for my own press. :) )

  7. Diana Peterfreund says:

    Kristin B, I know, I’m mystified by the same thing. I sent out 21 queries for the book before SSG, but the only agent that overlapped was my now-agent. And it’s not that the other agents weren’t also grand — they are. But as I learned more and more about what I was writing and what other people were selling, etc. my list changed.

    Also, a few of the agents I queried the second time around were “invite only” agents. If I’d done a full query search, I’m sure I would have overlapped some.

    Also, great picture. and great attitude. Keep writing, keep writing, keep writing.

  8. Diana Peterfreund says:

    Heather, I think even if they reject my work, it’s not about me. I am friends with several people whose books, for one reason or another, are not my cup of tea. Not bad books, just not my thing. I am known to recommend them to friends when the book would be their thing, though.

    And I don’t predicate being friends with someone based on whether or not they are a writer, a reader, a good writer, etc. Sometimes, I just like them.

    A very good friend of mine could not read my book. he tried and was just like, “sorry babe, let me buy you a beer instead.” It happens.

  9. Diana Peterfreund says:

    Yes, otherKristin! Exactly… like what I wrote above about the agents not overlapping in subsequent queries.

  10. Diana Peterfreund says:

    Phyllis, you’re always such a rebel. ;-) I’m really impressed that you did it, though, Maybe if it was my first book, and I was really close to finishing it, I’d power through on principle, but I don’t think I’d have gone from page 50 to page 250 if I’d thought it was fatally flawed. Good going!

  11. Diana Peterfreund says:

    Oh, I agree, buried editor. There are a whole host of reasons that someone doesn’t buy your book that isn’t “this sucks.” On the top of my list of most annoying: “we recently bought something very much like this.” OUCH!

    And limited list is a toughie, too…

    I think regarding the author’s best, that sometimes we don’t know it’s not our best until we do something better. I think every book I’ve written was the absolute best book I could have written at that time. But I don’t think “my best” is a fixed point. I like to think it’s always rising.

  12. Annie says:

    Fascinating post, Diana. I guess because I can see why it’s a struggle for some people not to take rejection on something so personal personally. Some people aren’t able to separate themselves from their work (and not just with writing).

  13. Ann(ie) says:

    “Actually, it just means that the agent doesn’t think she can sell the book you sent her.”

    Yep. As a whole, writers tend to read all kinds of crazy subtext into a simple rejection. Don’t ponder it, just move on.

    “When I get a rejection, I am spurred on to do better. Send them my next book with, “oh yeah? Reject this.” And maybe they won’t be able to.”

    Exactly.

  14. phyllis towzey says:

    Thanks, Diana. I just know far too many people who keep starting a book, getting 3 or 4 chapters into it, and then abandoning it and starting another. Or worse yet, spending years rewriting the same 3 or 4 chapters and never getting any further.

    With a first book, my thought is — good, bad or ugly — you just have to finish the damn thing. It’s like practicing a piece of music. How good would you ever get if every time you made a mistake, you went back and started the piece over again from the begining. Sometimes you’ve just got to play it through.

  15. eatrawfish says:

    Thanks for the post. (Look, I can comment on things besides TV!)

    I’m writing my second book (the first was never submitted anywhere but may yet get revised) and often struggle with the ‘what if this doesn’t sell’ issue.

    Recently I realized that I had to write a book I loved first and foremost, not a ‘book to sell.’ In other words, right now I’m on the draft with the door closed. :)

    Which can be hard for an overly-goal oriented gal like me – and I should get back to that right now. :)

  16. Lis says:

    Exactly. I’ve only actually heard of one agent (the name escapes me right now) who actually said if I reject one project, I don’t want to see any more from you. That shocked me. I didn’t think there were any agents like that.

  17. Heather Harper says:

    “sorry babe, let me buy you a beer instead.”

    Free drinks are fine, too. Can’t please everyone. :) And I do agree with what you are saying.

  18. Celeste says:

    Yeah. As you can see, I’m getting right to work this morning.

    Great point about burning through that first draft. I was handing off my chapters to my wonderful CP, and her comments were spot on, but they totally kept my internal editor on. I got hung up for a month on stupid details. When I stopped sending her the chapters as I went, I found my story again. *shaking head, tsk-tsking* Silly, silly me.

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